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Mugabe stokes fears of war if he loses election



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Published Date: 15 June 2008
ROBERT Mugabe increased the threat of all-out civil war in Zimbabwe yesterday when he insisted that he would fight against an MDC government if it won power in this month's presidential election.
"We are prepared to fight for our country and to go to war for it," the president told a crowd of supporters in Harare at the funeral of a former army general.

MDC leader Morgan Tsvan-girai will face Mugabe in a run-off presidential election on June 27, after winning the first round in March but without the necessary majority.

Tsvangirai, rights groups and Western powers accuse Mugabe of unleashing a brutal campaign, including using police to harass opponents, to win the run-off. Tsvangirai and 11 MDC campaign colleagues were held by police for three hours yesterday after being taken into custody at a roadblock in the morning. He has been detained several times this month.

Meanwhile, Tendai Biti, the party's secretary-general who was arrested on Thursday as he returned to the country, appeared before a judge.

At the closed hearing, prosecutors said they planned to charge him with "treason and making malicious statements detrimental to … the state", which could carry a death penalty, Biti's lawyer said.

Police took Biti – accused of announcing results of the March 29 poll prematurely – away after the hearing and said they might bring him back to court tomorrow, the lawyer told reporters.

Mugabe's ZANU-PF lost control of parliament in elections also held in March but the president, who has ruled since independence from Britain in 1980, has shown little sign of accepting change.

"It is clearly impossible to talk about a free and fair election in Zimbabwe," the MDC said after their leader was detained. "To suggest otherwise is to be blind to the grave harassment, intimidation and violence that the people of Zimbabwe have had to endure over the past few years."

The MDC says 66 of its followers have been killed in attacks since the March polls. Mugabe, 84, blames the MDC for the violence that has caused international concern.

His language has grown increasingly belligerent. He said again yesterday that Western countries were interfering. "We have become the focus of the British and the Americans. The US has provided $70m to the MDC for regime change ... and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown is interfering in our internal affairs.

"Never again shall this country come under the rule of the white man, direct or indirect. Not while we, who fought for its liberation, live," Mugabe said to wild cheers from thousands of supporters, including soldiers.

The former guerrilla commander had told ZANU-PF youth members in Harare a day earlier that liberation war veterans had told him they would launch a new bush war if he lost the run-off.

Mugabe's sentence of death on women of Zimbabwe

Kevin Kane
in Johannesburg


ABIGAIL Murewa is a mother at the age of just 19 and her son is already well past his first birthday. She has no income and dropped out of school before completing basic schooling. Her beautiful face and direct stare are haunting, as is the malnourished child tied to her back in a blanket.

WOZA protesters risk their lives demonstrating on the streets of Harare. Photograph: Getty Images
WOZA protesters risk their lives demonstrating on the streets of Harare. Photograph: Getty Images
One thing is certain about Abigail: she is likely to be dead before her son reaches the age of 16. Life expectancy for Zimbabwean women was down to only 34 years by early 2006, according to the World Health Organisation (WHO), compared with 62 years in 1990. Now, two years later, life expectancy for Abigail is less than 34 years.

Thirty-four, an age when women in stable democracies are thinking about careers, starting families, or buying homes, is by far the lowest life expectancy in the world. Even in Iraq, women can expect to live for more than 51 years. In poor countries, such as Cuba and North Korea, women's life expectancy is 75 and 65 respectively.

Inscriptions on the headstones of hundreds of graves at the Granville cemetery in Harare, Zimbabwe's capital and Abigail Murewa's home, tell the harrowing tale of women's life expectancy in a country where 3,500 citizens a week die from HIV/Aids, higher than the overall death rate in Darfur where Sudanese government forces are accused of genocide.

But the rate is increasing in the government violence that has followed this year's March 29 presidential and parliamentary elections. And the deaths have accelerated with the approach of the presidential run-off poll scheduled for June 27, with women taking the brunt of the violence perpetrated by the militiamen of incumbent President Robert Mugabe, who has given veteran militias permission to wage war on his opponent, Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) leader Morgan Tsvangirai.

Mugabe told a ruling Zanu-PF party rally that Tsvangirai will return the country to white control if he wins the run-off. The veterans, Mugabe's followers during the 1970s war against white rule, are not prepared to recognise a Tsvangirai victory, said Mugabe. "They said they got this country through the barrel of a gun, so they cannot let it go by a ballot."

One woman who got in the way of Mugabe's militiamen was Dadirai Chipiro, wife of Patson Chipiro, leader of the MDC in Mhondoro, 100 miles northeast of Harare. Three truckloads of militiamen came looking for Patson 10 days ago but, in his absence, they turned on Dadirai, a 45-year-old nursery teacher, and broke both her legs before chopping off both her feet and one of her hands. In one of the most diabolical of many barbarous acts of evil perpetrated by Mugabe's regime since independence in 1980, the militiamen then threw Dadirai into her hut, barricaded the door and tossed a petrol bomb through the window. Police refused to issue a crime incident report. At the funeral Dadirai's coffin lid remained ajar because her outstretched arm had burned rigid.

Women have been right in Zimbabwe's front line – more so than the MDC's male leaders – opposing Mugabe and his hitmen, and few have been braver than Jennie Williams and Betty Makoni while living to tell their stories.

Williams, a so-called 'coloured' (mixed race) Zimbabwean, is a future contender for the Nobel Peace Prize – provided she survives her current incarceration in the notorious Chikurubi Prison, near Harare, where conditions have been described as worse than Auschwitz.

Williams founded WOZA (Women of Zimbabwe Arise) as a women's civil rights movement in 2003. In the past five years Williams and the WOZA women have been constantly going on to the streets to demonstrate against the Mugabe government when MDC chiefs have been too frightened to do so. The 40,000-strong movement flouts restrictive protest laws in non-violent marches of thousands of women, many with their children strapped to their backs.

Some 30,000 WOZA women have spent time in police custody, many more than once, for their street protests against Mugabe's excesses. Under the slogan "Tough love", they have demonstrated to the timid MDC the possibilities of mass mobilisation, suffering beatings and near-unbearable prison conditions to exercise their fundamental freedoms.

But her followers and Amnesty International are deeply worried about the fate of Williams. She has been in custody at Chikurubi for 18 days with 13 other WOZA activists, including Williams' deputy Magodonga Mahlangu, after a street demonstration in Harare on Africa Day on May 28 against government violence following the March election.

Under Mugabe's draconian decree, the WOZA marchers, who carried placards and distributed flyers condemning the violence, were stopped by police and their leaders arrested. Williams' bail was set at 10,000,000,000 Zimbabwe dollars (£10 under Zimbabwe's inflation rate of 500,000%), but the police refused to release her. Williams is charged with "participating in a gathering with intent to promote public violence" and "causing disaffection among the Police Force".

The evidence produced by the state relates to a paragraph in one of the WOZA flyers addressed to Zimbabwe's uniformed forces which said: "We ask them to respect that Zimbabweans have voted (on March 29] for change and refrain from being used to perpetrate violence and to carry out injustices."

Betty Makoni is also a potential Nobel Peace Prize nominee for her campaigns against rape – as a weapon of political intimidation by Mugabe's militias and in Zimbabwean society more widely.

As a child labourer aged six, she was raped by a neighbour together with nine other girls. Makoni is now aged 37. But none of the others violated that day are still alive to tell their stories.

Makoni eventually went to university and became a teacher. She now administers a Girl Child Network with nearly 700 clubs. In its nine-year history the Network has helped more than 60,000 females who have been raped, ranging from a one-day-old baby to a 94-year-old grandmother.

Among Makoni's recent honours are the 2008 Amnesty International Ginetta Sagan Award for Women's and Children's Rights and the 2007 World Children's Prize for the Rights of the Child

"As I speak now, I know a woman is getting killed," Makoni said at a public lecture she gave last week in Toronto. "There's a silent genocide going on… I've picked up stories about women who are raped in front of their grandchildren, in front of their sons, in front of their daughter, and of women forced to be raped by their own relatives… I think the idea is to destroy the womb that brings their opponents in the country into the world."

She has been jailed several times and receives constant death threats.

But Makoni was today flying back to Harare to share with Williams, the women of WOZA, and the country's countless rape victims a struggle against the increasingly merciless onslaught by Mugabe and his security force chiefs.

Migrant 'necklaced' to death

Anti-foreigner rioting flared up again yesterday in a South African township as a foreign migrant from Mozambique, as yet unidentified, was "necklaced" to death.

The death brought to 63 the number of people who have died in the ethnic cleansing that broke out last month and has seen the poorest areas of the country emptied of black migrants from other parts of Africa, particularly Zimbabwe.

Necklacing was the method used in black townships in the 1980s and early 1990s to kill suspected 'sell-outs' to the former apartheid government.

It involved jamming a car tyre over the shoulders of the victim, filling it with petrol and setting it ablaze.

The necklacing in the Pretoria township of Atteridgeville is the second of a Mozambican migrant in the wave of anti-immigrant attacks. Early reports suggested clashes occurred between residents of Atteridgeville and Somali migrants housed in a nearby United Nations-run refugee camp. Police opened fire and fires were burning.

Meanwhile, about 100 people turned out for an anti-xenophobia march in central Johannesburg yesterday afternoon organised by the International Community Unifiers (ICU), a group representing the five million African migrants in South Africa.

Dennis Mpangane, the ICU president, said: "We do not understand why we have been savagely and brutally assaulted, raped, killed, intimidated.

"We have had our property destroyed and looted and we have been evicted from our homes and experienced all forms of humiliation."

The full article contains 1879 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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1

Guga II,

Rockall 15/06/2008 03:49:23
Are the war criminals Bush and Broon, like the ineffectual UN, prepared to stand by and watch all this happen?

If there is one country crying out for regime change, then Zimbabwe is it. Mugabe should be arrested and hauled in front of an international court on charges of genocide of his own people.

So, Bush, before you stand down, and Broon, before you get kicked out, how about doing something decent for a change, like pressuring the UN for immediate action?


2

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 15/06/2008 04:16:40
If the US can remotely control an armed drone from the pentagon and kill anyone they like why don't they use it on Mugabe? Come to think of it why didn't they use it on Saddam Hussein?

No neeed to answer that, I already know.
3

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15/06/2008 05:37:35
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Kenny A,

15/06/2008 06:28:58
Whos interested its only Africa. No money to be made. So what if a few childern die, women are raped and a country is plunged into despair.

Africa is a self inflicted mess, and that will not change.

Real sad as most Africans are seriously decent people apart from the real bad ones who are a minority but a hugly strong one.
5

Amani_Bunduki,

Canberra 15/06/2008 07:25:40
Mugabe is a such plonker. They would/should probably have him assassinated if it weren't a matter of several thousand trillion dollars to get it done at the current astronomical rate of inflation...

you have to wonder why it is even a pretence to a democracy...

I support the MDC and the people of Zimbabwe. Mugabe's friends and relatives will long bear the burden of that evil and and cruel man's sins...
6

El Sabio,

Sibbertoft 15/06/2008 07:59:34
I think that all who care about libertty and democracy should speak out. Think of the words of Pastor Martin Niemoller who began to see the evil in the nazi regime.

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out


7

Erchie Broon,

15/06/2008 08:10:28
The whole Southern African region is a mess and Britain and the US would be well advised to stay way from it. They are not welcome by either Mugabe or Mbeki of South Africa and it should be left alone to find its own level of civilisation. Africans are always telling the World about the "legacy of apartheid/colonialism" and/or "African solutions for African problems" so here is their big opportunity to demonstrate what they are capable of.The truth is that colonialism was the best thing that ever happened to Africa but as a Race they have consistently elected Despots post colonialism who have run the Continent into the ground while the West has pumped in Billions of US$ from their taxpayers to no avail.Why continue to bleed the British taxpayer when Africans have what they wanted? South Africa is next and already well down the road to being Zimbabwe 2 so let them self destruct. Helping them has only gotten us criticism and allegations of interference so leave them alone.
8

Norman C.,

London 15/06/2008 08:26:06

The Sctosman's reporter writes:

"MDC leader Morgan Tsvan-girai will face Mugabe in a run-off presidential election on June 27, after winning the first round in March but without the necessary majority."

It took the Electoral Commission over three weeks to issue what they said were the results of the presidential election, with no adequate explanation for this inordinate and inexcusable delay. Why on earth do The Scotsaman and the BBC and many others accept without question what the Commission says? Is it independent? Did it succumb to Mugabe strong-arm tactics? We may never know, but it seems quite possible that Morgan Tsvan-girai did indeed win outright in the first round. So this whole new voting round may be completely unnecessary. And then Mugabe postpones the date!

What is appalling is that because if the supineness of the UN, and in particular South Africa, Mugabe no longer feels the need even to pretend he is a democrat. God help Zimbabwe.

By the way, Pastor Martin Niemoller (brave man that he was) was not an early anti-Nazi. He came round to his anti-Nazi-ism over time. Originally he was not hostile to Hitler.
9

Norman C.,

london 15/06/2008 08:29:33
With typos corrected

The Scotsman's reporter writes:

"MDC leader Morgan Tsvan-girai will face Mugabe in a run-off presidential election on June 27, after winning the first round in March but without the necessary majority."

It took the Electoral Commission over three weeks to issue what they said were the results of the presidential election, with no adequate explanation for this inordinate and inexcusable delay. Why on earth do The Scotsman and the BBC and many others accept without question what the Commission says? Is it independent? Did it succumb to Mugabe strong-arm tactics? We may never know, but it seems quite possible that Morgan Tsvan-girai did indeed win outright in the first round. So this whole new voting round may be completely unnecessary. And then Mugabe postpones the date!

What is appalling is that because of the supineness of the UN, and in particular South Africa, Mugabe no longer feels the need even to pretend he is a democrat. God help Zimbabwe.

By the way, Pastor Martin Niemoller (brave man that he was) was not an early anti-Nazi. He came round to his anti-Nazi-ism over time. Originally he was not hostile to Hitler.
10

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 15/06/2008 08:49:11
Those who decry the actions of the 'regime' in Zimbabwe should look deep within themselves and ask if they'd be any different. OK Mugabe's probably mad and his senior cronies are lining their own pockets at the expense of the deep misery of the people but what about his supporters lower down the ladder? The soldiers, police, 'veterans' and civil servants who are keeping him in power? Surely they must see their neighbours' dying of hunger? They are the ones dishing out the beatings but, to ensure their own families are fed and not beaten, they go along with it. Like supposedly civilised Europeans in the 30s and 40s, it shows that Man's animal instinct for self-protection is only just under the surface. Good luck to all the brave people of the MDC but it's not our place to get involved. The Yanks and us are always damned if we do and damned if we don't.
11

Boy Wonder,

15/06/2008 09:16:07
The Zimbabwean Civil War has been going on for years under Mygabe. It was just undeclared!

And the govts of the world should hang their heads in shame that they've allowed this to go unchecked for so long!

It's time not for a UN Peace Corps, who go into spots like this and enforce peace on the end of a bullet!
12

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15/06/2008 09:47:12
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Selgovae,

Scottish Borders 15/06/2008 09:48:45
#10

Good post.

I find it odd that many here who were against the Iraq invasion think we should "do something" about Zimbabwe. Unless there is general support among other countries in the region for intervention, as in the first Iraq war, we must learn that we can and should sit back and do nothing.


14

long live the supermarkets,

Every little hurts 15/06/2008 09:51:50
Bring back Maggie she wouls have sorted him out she was the only one who had b#lls.
15

Citylocal Fife,

Fife News 15/06/2008 10:17:58
Surely, considering the amount of miles which Mugabe flies, an in-flight 'accident' concerning his 'plane could be expected, and is in fact long overdue. There are still many problems with software associated with weaponry and radar, and I would have thought that a failure of this sort was imminent..... and the probabilty that his key thugs would also be on the flight?

Well there's icing on every cake!
16

cabrach loon,

inverness 15/06/2008 11:06:58
Mugabe should be taken by the UN to the International Court to face charges of Genocide and the African National force should be sent there to clean out the rotten regime. The UK's handling of this man is a pathetic disgrace and the UN is a wholly useless organisation, maybe it should be reduced to the Security Council. But yes there is little domocracy in much of the Western World - the people of the UK want a referendum and it is denied by a minority Govt - When OH when will the UK cease the undemocratic election procedure of "First Past the Post"? What a hypocrital corrupt shower so many are in Westminster.
17

Silence of the Yams,

15/06/2008 11:40:54
16. He could have been arrested in Rome the other week. It's okay to arrest and pursue white Serbs through the Hague etc, but Mugabe is above international law?
18

BobD,

15/06/2008 11:52:10
It's time that supposedly democratic western governments acknowledged the difference between humanitarian concern and interference in the running of another country.

Britain and America have past experience of defying a hostile regime to supply food to needy people - remember the Berlin Airlift? Why has this not been tried in Zimbabwe?

However, it is none of our business how the country is governed or whether their elections are honest or otherwise.

If Mugabe continues to drive his country to economic ruin, eventually he'll have no means of continuing his personal affluent lifestyle.
19

james hunter,

metford 15/06/2008 13:34:58
what beggers belief is why Mbeki is so scared. S.A. should be taling the lead get some other locals together and go in and whife the dog whoopsie from the carpet. put mad bob and his cronies in the slammer some place far ,far away and let the Zim people get on with rebuilding. It would do the whole region a lot odf good with Zim refugees able to go home. Might earn Mbeki some respect,something he will find hard to get otherwise.
20

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Rednose Harry,

Wallasey 15/06/2008 13:40:40
So Andrew Fergus Scottish Sunday Mail was right all those years ago when he wrote of Mugabe and his "freedom fighters" - One man one vote,ONCE!!
22

Toast,

15/06/2008 14:03:14
#23 Off course you aren't a rascist,just a moron
23

albanman,

Edinburgh 15/06/2008 14:07:25
No.23 I rather think that you've wrongly numbered your insult.
24

keystone,

Wisconsin USA 15/06/2008 14:12:20
#23, you certainly got it right About YOURSELF by putting #23 down. But perhaps you are not a moron as you say you are, but without question you are I fear, both stupid, and totally unable to admit to the truth. truth. Now, calm down mate, and try again. Perhaps this time even you will figure out how to get it right. But if you don't, no one, I am sure, will be surprised. And by the way, OF is spelled, OF, not OFF. Here too, try again. I close by saying, you are a wonderful example of what plagues Africa.
25

peter e,

15/06/2008 14:15:06
Well now I hear complaints about Busch and Broon. Do we want a superpower now?

The UN is a useless as teats on a bull. Maybe it should move to Brussels, where all useless organizations go.
26

busbyfh,

15/06/2008 14:59:38
We all know that Mugabe will win the run off.
Too many villages and townships that voted against this idiot are now promised obliteration if they vote the same way again.
Massive courage and backbone is now required to vote against the black Adolph Hitler - and that is for the individual.If you have a family to consider there is no way you would risk their lives - bad enough your own.
Pity the "west" could not find a Lee Harvey Oswald to visit Mu gabby.
27

El Sabio,

Sibbertoft 15/06/2008 15:14:58
#8 Sorry, I forgot to mention that and, also the fact that, Pastor Niemoller was thrown into a concentration camp by Hitler for speaking out
28

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 15/06/2008 15:23:25
A truly harrowing account of the violent oppression of women and the increasingly shrill and desperate tactics and words of Mugabe and his supporting gang of thugs, rapists, murderers, and crooks.

The shriller and more outrageous Mugabe gets in his public statements the more we wonder at his sanity and when he will finally be "offed" - to worldwide rejoicing.
29

Mashimaro,

china 15/06/2008 15:31:29
That is a really evil picture of Mugabe.

#21 Since the white races have left Arica, and African's to manage their own affairs, every African country has become a cesspool of crime and self imposed destruction of itself. What this has proved is that African's are unable to manage their own affairs, due to lower intelligence than the white races. This is not a racist statement, rather it is a statement of proven fact. The best hope of the African countries is to again have the white races return to direct them, and from this direction stability, and prosperity will again return. But until the white races return to save Africa, and African's from themselves, there is no hope!"

People like you make me laugh my socks off. Do you think your kings and wealthy people got that way by being nice? The reason these people have risen to the top like the scum they are is because the good people were all dead. Then it takes centuries of inbreeding to get your modern day spineless wonders and oh so moralistic and gentle royalty. Get real man. Learn something from this. If you keep on removing leaders, worse leaders will arise. So back off and let Zimbabwe sort out its own problems.
30

Geoff,

sa 15/06/2008 15:33:03
18 Spook-i do not believe that there is any factor inherent in skin colour or pigmentation that makes any human being less capable or have less potential than another. However, Africas structural and political failure is self evident. Here in south Africa,after a promising start, we are seeing a slow decline in the broad standards that mark a good democracy-increasing and blatant corruption,high levels of brutal crime with a police force that seems either powerless or incapable of checking it, and a inexplicable failure of our leaders at all levels to tackle fixable problems. If you can get your hands on a copy of todays Tribune(SA) you will see a typical example of a day in sa-murder,hijackings,misuse of public funds,a vehicle flashing blue lights shooting at an innocent motorist etc etc.. Colonialism and centuries of deprivation may account for and explain some of this but Quo Vadis Africa. They can not blame the past forever.
31

Geoff,

sa 15/06/2008 15:36:12
Mugabe,Milosevic-both bloodthirsty criminals. Their skin colour is of no significance.
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Geoff,

sa 15/06/2008 15:46:47
27 busbyfh-even if Tsvangarai was by some miracle 'allowed' to win in what will undoubtedly be a rigged election, the Zim Electoral Commision would simply not release the results. Mugabe it seems can act with impunity. The only country that could engimneer his exit is SA-clearly Mbeki has no stomach for this.
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Mashimaro,

China 15/06/2008 16:16:33
Zimbabwean Drums

The drums are calling old man, and they are louder by the day.
They are calling you to judgement and now's the time to pay
for the wrongs you've done your country and the trust betrayed.
So hear those drums swelling; hear well and be afraid.

You came to power on waves of hope that you would make your mark,
in a land that shone in Africa like diamonds in the dark.
In simple faith the people put their trust in your care,
and were repaid by the Fifth Brigade and the CIO and fear.
Twenty eight years of motorcades and lavish trips abroad;
a nation's heritage is lost through patronage and fraud.
The Chiefs grow fat while people starve and famine stalks our homes.
On idle farms the weeds grow rank and cover cattle bones.
The youth are taught your slogans but even as they sing,
the drums of change are beating for the truth is seeping in.
The demagogue has feet of clay and lies will not sustain
the shattered land that once seemed free and will be so again.
Too late to blame the drought, the Brits, the whites, the MDC.
For all know where the finger points with cold finality.

So hear the drums, old man, and listen to them well,
They foretell of your end days and they have much to tell.
for he who sows the seeds of hate will reap the grapes of wrath,
so tremble in your bed at night, at the end of your sorry path.


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Gere,

Scotland 15/06/2008 16:36:13
Post #35

Apologies, unleash should read unleashing
36

Mashimaro,

China 15/06/2008 18:16:51
#35 Gere, what interest did Israel have in Iraq?
37

Pilrig.,

Livingston 15/06/2008 18:34:07
14 - she didnae when she was in charge
38

Pilrig.,

Livingston 15/06/2008 18:37:03
17 - the only person who tried to arrest 'e-ba-gum' on European soil was Peter Tachel !
39

American,

15/06/2008 18:49:01
#35-Gere-LOL--Is that what your mullah is teaching you??

BTW-Why cant china and russia send in their military to calm things down??
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American,

15/06/2008 20:11:28
#18-the spook- Unfortunately with our 2 candidates for president, we will not have a true good leader. One is a senile democrat posing as a republican and the other is a left-winged, racist liberal.
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Media 1,

cape town 15/06/2008 20:47:42
I really dont know why people actually believe that Britain should be doing more. Mbeki was in exile for 25 years and during that quarter of a century he toured the world living of sponsorships crying for regime change in SA, yet now, when much worse than ever happened in South Africa is happening in Zimbabwe, he stands back and does nothing. If the world reacted to the apartheid era the way that Mbeki reacts to Mugabe, we would still have apartheid here!(Which would mean less crime, less corruption, more competent leaders, more competent police, competent teachers, a well run health care and success at almost everything else)but thats another story!!
Mbeki and his African cronies are the ones who should be sorting out Mugabe, it is not Browns job, he has enough on his own plate.
Let these useless f@cking Africans sort their own sh!t out. It's time they did something for themselves.
42

Mashimaro,

China 16/06/2008 02:26:13
#40 Invading other countries is not China's policy.
43

American,

16/06/2008 03:36:00
#43-mashimaro-The posters in here are talking about helping, not invading. I guess that's not chinas policy either.
44

Mashimaro,

China 16/06/2008 04:42:44
#44 Helping how? Unless you actually "get rid" of Mugabe there is not much you can do. While he is in power you have to respect his rule of law. Otherwise it will eventually escalate to armed conflict and it will be an invasion.
Being in Asia we've seen how the US and UK "help" people, thanks very much. We'd really rather that you didn't.

For all you guys who say blacks have made no contribution to anything, nor invented anything I suggest you take a look at a man by the name of George Wasghington Carver - thank you very much.
45

Drum Major,

Brisbane, Australia 16/06/2008 05:41:01
Mugabe must go, preferably to be tried for crimes against humanity. He has encouraged genocide and suppressed all opposition. His hanging should be a public affair not secluded like Saddam's. Mbeki must denounce Mugabe and be part of an intervention force. This situation has far more justification than Iraq. NATO, SEATO & (former) Warsaw pact countries should all contribute to such a force.
46

Skatedad,

16/06/2008 10:26:25
The African nations wanted free from colonial rule,they got what they wanted. Leave them to their own devices!! Tribalism still rules in Africa. Let them sort out their own problems without massive hand outs.
47

Neal! Whit? Haud yer Whisht!!,

16/06/2008 13:11:28
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Mashimaro - "Being in Asia we've seen how the US and UK "help" people, thanks very much. We'd really rather that you didn't."

A Hit, Sir, a Very Palpable Hit!!

 

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