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Brown 'heading for meltdown'



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Published Date: 21 September 2008
GORDON Brown is leading Labour towards an electoral meltdown as devastating as that suffered by the Tories when Tony Blair swept to power in 1997, according to a major new opinion poll.
Research of almost 35,000 voters across 238 marginal seats projects a massive Tory landslide, with David Cameron commanding a majority of 146 as more than half of Labour MPs lose their seats.

The survey, carried out by YouGov for the PoliticsHome
website and published in a Sunday newspaper, is reported to be the biggest such exercise in the key seats where the election will be decided. The results come as the Labour Party conference gets underway, and are particularly bad news for Brown, who hopes to use the gathering to relaunch his premiership.

If proved correct, it would see Labour reduced to just 160 MPs, its fewest since 1935, losing seats held since the First World War and being all but wiped out in the south of England.

Of more immediate concern to Brown are the findings from Glenrothes, where the SNP is predicted to win the looming by-election. A second humiliation north of the border following the Glasgow East loss to the SNP in July could prove fatal for Brown's leadership.

Those urging him to step aside will be encouraged by the finding that a third of potential Labour voters in the marginal seats would be more likely to vote for the party under a different leader.

Home Secretary Jacqui Smith would be one of eight Cabinet ministers booted out by the electorate should the poll be translated to a general election.

Transport Secretary Ruth Kelly, Skills Secretary John Denham, Defence Secretary Des Browne, Chief Whip Geoff Hoon, Justice Secretary Jack Straw, Work and Pensions Secretary James Purnell and Business Secretary John Hutton would also go, as well as a dozen other ministers and high-profile former Cabinet ministers such as Charles Clarke and Alan Milburn.

A total of 34,334 online interviews were carried out by YouGov between July 22 and August 4, and further fieldwork was carried out on September 18-19.

Earlier, Brown had brushed aside the rebellion against his leadership in contemptuous fashion, attempting to cast himself as the man best equipped to deal with the world's economic crisis.

In an opening address to the party's national conference in Manchester, the Prime Minister made only one oblique reference to the calls for his head, mentioning "the other stuff" that had taken place during last week's financial turmoil.

The challenge, which culminated in the resignation of Scotland Office minister David Cairns, threatened to overshadow the conference at one stage, but Brown quickly sought to show that events had moved on.

Referring back to the past few days, he said: "What a week! I don't think I've ever seen anything like it. Not the other stuff, but the world economy changing almost by the day and almost by the hour."

Brown was backed strongly by the conference hall yesterday as several delegates declared they wanted to see an end to the "unseemly squabbling" over the party leadership. The party begins four days of debate in Manchester, including a speech by new Scottish leader Iain Gray today and culminating in a leader's speech by Brown on Tuesday.

Replying to a question-and-answer session in which his leadership was raised, Brown said: "The eyes of the country are upon us, and the people of this country want us to address their concerns."

His strategists are hoping to capitalise on last week's crisis, claiming it was only the intervention by Brown and Chancellor Alistair Darling to allow the Lloyds TSB takeover of HBOS that held off a major banking collapse.

The theme is expected to be woven into his keynote speech. Many in the party say they are waiting to see how he performs before deciding whether he should lead the party into the next general election.

Brown also revealed that immediately after the conference ends he is to go to America, where he will press the case for global reform of financial regulations. This follows the Financial Services Authority's temporary ban on short-selling, announced last week.



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  • Last Updated: 21 September 2008 12:48 AM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Labour Party
 
1

Angus Ogg,

20/09/2008 21:15:44

I'm.....

Going To Glenrothes to say Goodbye to Gordy.

Can't wait.
2

Joe-kerr,

21/09/2008 00:32:31
Eddie, Your leader is sounding like a mills and broon. Did he stroll up and sweep all the minions asside whilst he stood their as an example of adonis with his manhood glistening.......

The only thing glistening here is the egg running down your face! Sorry but your showing your colours, hardly impartial!
Financiers in £6 billion bid to save Bank of Scotland
EXCLUSIVE: Intelligent Finance founder Spowart looks for allies to save Scottish Institution.

3

subrosa,

21/09/2008 01:13:27
'Brown also revealed that immediately after the conference ends he is to go to America, where he will press the case for global reform of financial regulations. This follows the Financial Services Authority's temporary ban on short-selling, announced last week.'

America will be impressed. Brown held back the UK ban on short-selling to allow the Lloyds TSB takeover of HBOS.

4

Zyskandar A Jaimot,

Orlando, Fl. 21/09/2008 02:52:45
As predicted by myself among many others - the 'SOCIALIST CHARADE' has run its course. 'GORDO' does not know how to deal with the rapidly changing upheaval in the world 'financial markets' - or restore a base of solvency eroded by years of 'free hand-outs' in LABOR's allowing cronyism/insiderism to run rampant!!! It is not the further 'reform' of financial regulations that is necessry - but the implementation of IMPARTIAL REGULATORS not restrained by 'how much they can make or give finance contracts/favors to their friends/allies' THAT SHOULD BE OF PRIME IMPORTANCE!!! IT IS NOT THE 'ECONOMIC SYSTEM' THAT IS AT FAULT - ONLY THE APPOINTED GOVERNOR'S AND THEIR OPERATING PRACTICES!!!
5

donald,

glasgow 21/09/2008 05:36:54
Will Eddie be going to Bushland along with his Broon hero?
6

somerferg,

perth 21/09/2008 05:44:53

Eek the very thought of Broon melting down - I for one would not like to be the one who has to clean up that messy big puddle of wax!
7

LEAL,

21/09/2008 06:23:49
A third of potential Labour voters would be more likely to vote Labour under a different leader.Not in Scotland.A change of leader in London will damage their prospects in Scotland still further.When will they hold a byelection in Glenrothes?
8

democracy,

Scottish Borders 21/09/2008 07:20:48
Brown 'heading for meltdown'


GOOD !!!!!!!!!
9

Bibamus,

Cyprus 21/09/2008 07:35:16
All the years of his 'slight of hand 'time at the Treasury finally catching up with him.Take more than JK to save this "Wizard ?"
10

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 21/09/2008 08:06:01
Look at the poll in the Independent, please, for a very different conclusion.
11

Peter Curran,

Kirkliston 21/09/2008 08:44:47
Sing a wee patriotic song for Glenrothes. I can't sing for toffee, but it's the words and the tune that count!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USOeJV6Hbuw
12

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 21/09/2008 09:05:22
#11 Rules

Yes it does. A short-term bounce for Brown. He is hated by too many people south of the border to recover. The kiss of death came when Alan Sugar gave him his blessing.
13

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 21/09/2008 09:14:09
#11 Rules

The only poll that matters at the moment is the one to be held in Glenrothes.

Lose this and it's over for Brown and the present London Labour Government. The whole house of cards will come tumbling down if the SNP win Glenrothes.

Labour look to be handing it to them on a plate.

I predict a comfortable SNP victory.
14

MacGillicuddy,

21/09/2008 09:46:09
#14
That's why Liebour are so busy bricking it that it has become too feart to call the By-election.

And of course there is the usual Liebour hypocrisy in that it was imperative that the electorates of Crewe & Nantwich and Glasgow East had to have Westmonster representation quickly this clearly does not apply in Broon's back yard. Not even the hapless Liebour candidate Roy has called for a by-election anytime soon.
15

GM,

21/09/2008 09:50:04
Can someone help me out here -

Did The Scotsman run any story at all regarding the resignation of the Glenrothes by-election labour campaign manager?

He has left (or was pushed) and has since said the campaign is a shambles and a seat labour cannot win...
16

Me, myself and I,

Livingston 21/09/2008 09:54:27
http://www.bjr.org.uk/data/2008/no3_macmillan

Interesting article for those who continually attack the Scotsman/Herald journalists.
17

GM,

21/09/2008 10:13:04
@17

brilliant article - very well written.
Personally I stopped buying the Scotsman about 18 months/2 years ago when the partisan bile filled hatred of the SNP simply became too much to bear.


I frimly believe that this drop in standards and quite bizarre lack of impartiallity led to the paper's decline -

best bit in the articel?

“The most admirable free-thinking radical traditions withered on the bough at precisely the moment when the nation was ripe to appreciate these liberal qualities. Its greatest opportunities opened out before it, and it surrendered, because there was nothing at the top but timidity, conventionality and emptiness.”


That sounds *EXACTLY* the position The Scotsman finds itself in at this point in time in Scotland...
18

whomthegodswishtodestroytheyfirstmakemad,

Glasgow 21/09/2008 10:57:01
"New World, New Solutions" Gordon Brown on the Andrew Marr Show this morning. Well folks there you have it in a nutshell the core idea of his speech on Tuesday. This snazy little soundbite is simply a rehash of "Time to draw a line under this and move on" as used by politicians who have been caught out and find themselves in a bit of a pickle. This will be a blatant attempt to pretend that the last ten years didnt happen, that Labour were not in power during this time, that Brown had no influence on decision making. Its time to start again, begin afresh blah blah blah. Rememebr folks repeat after me "New World New Solutions.....New World New Solutions....New World New Solutions.....assimilate...resistence is futile !

ps

I see Harriet Harman has taken to wearing a jacket that has the appearance of being from some sort of reptilian skin "
19

joppa jock,

Huntingdon 21/09/2008 11:23:31
Doubtful if anybody would be willing to take over from Brown. I they did they would be the new leader of the Lemming Party.
20

Alex Salmond's Briefcase Carrier,

@Politicshomepoll 21/09/2008 11:34:37
Dumfries and Galloway LAB CON GAIN
Edinburgh South West LAB LAB HOLD
Renfrewshire East LAB CON GAIN
Stirling LAB SNP GAIN
Aberdeenshire West
and Kincardine
LDEM LDEM HOLD
Argyll and Bute LDEM SNP GAIN
Berwickshire Roxburgh
and Selkirk
LDEM LDEM HOLD
Aberdeen North LAB SNP GAIN
Aberdeen South LAB SNP GAIN
Dunfermline and West Fife (LAB) SNP GAIN
Edinburgh North and Leith LAB SNP GAIN
Edinburgh South LAB CON GAIN
Angus SNP SNP HOLD
Dundee East SNP SNP HOLD
Dundee West LAB SNP GAIN
Kilmarnock & Loudoun LAB SNP GAIN
Moray SNP SNP HOLD
Ochil and South Perthshire LAB SNP GAIN
Perth and North Perthshire SNP SNP HOLD
If the same swing was repeated beyond the marginals polled
the SNP would also gain Glenrothes, Midlothian, Linlithgow
and Falkirk East, Lanarck and Hamilton East, Paisley and
Renfrewshire North, Edinburgh East, Ayrshire North and
Arran and East Lothian. High profile defeats would include Des
Browne, with Alistair Darling hanging on only narrowly.
21

Alec M,

Falkirk 21/09/2008 12:06:53
18 - Thanks for the link - an interesting article, its conclusions like to prove true, sadly.

21 - Thank you, too. Falkirk East - I "reJoyce" at the prospect.
22

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 21/09/2008 12:33:34
Like most people with an IQ greater than a sparrow's I no longer listen to anything Labour says and I just count of the days until 10th June 2010 when we can get that unelected cretin out of 10 Downing Street - or if he still won't go send the army in to give him his marching orders.
23

Mike555,

21/09/2008 12:39:30
Robber Brown will not resign after the defeat of the Liebor candidate in Glenrothes - he is too stubborn to lose hold of power as his party sinks to the lowest ratings in more than 30 years. All these Liebor MP's losing their seats at the next general election thanks to Bungling Gordo - Terrific and the Cons and SNP love him as he is the biggest asset to their causes.

To be honest, anybody who supports the unelected leader of the Liebor party, the man that ruined the private pension pots of millions of hard working people, the man who threw away the nations gold reserves, the man that plotted against Bliar all these years, the man that cut the 10p tax band for the poorest in society and finally the man that can't see that he is the most unpopular PM in modern times and should step aside now is I'm sorry to say, Bonkers.

Go Gordo Go.
24

Scheme,

21/09/2008 13:09:54
Brown will be the last Scottish prime minister of the UK; the English will never again elect a party that has a Scot leading it.

The choice for Scots is simple; remain in the union and be dominated by the English majority in Westminster, or choose independence and govern ourselves. Vote SNP, it makes sense.
25

Angus Ogg,

21/09/2008 13:27:24
#17

That's an excellent link. Thankyou.

When the journalists themselves say the game is up, then it's time to go, go.

What are the odds that inside 24 months the Scotsman and Herald will have to merge to survive.


The Scotald or Hersman ! Euch no thanks.


What about the SCOTTISH HERALD as a combined title? I'll bet a fiver. Odds anyone ?

Well if the Bank of Scotland, founded in 1695 and older than the Act of union can be dissolved within a 72 hour period, then no event is out of the question.
26

LEAL,

21/09/2008 13:33:21
26 Angus Ogg
You think the papers will merge before the referendum?Given the readership of the Scottish Herald will be pro independence,what camp will the Scottish Herald back in the referendum?
27

Angus Ogg,

21/09/2008 13:37:04
#24

I believed the same as you, that Gordon Brown would not go voluntarily. But after the Glasgow CBI thing, I heard from an impeccable source who was there that a heart to heart had been had. A couple of ministers present indicated that he is at least contemplating the issue of timing on when he might go. We all have to go sometime. It is inevitable.

For veracity on this, my friend indicated she expected a ministerial rsignation within days. I posted same, well in advance of the event, on these Scotsman Boards, but Eddie Barnes didn't take me on. Well he was a little rude actually.

Five days later David Cairns left. Eddie lost a scoop.

IMHO I think there is a 60% chance that if Glenrothes is lost by Labour, then Gordon will throw in the towel, but not before scuppering any chance of Milliband or Purnell getting in. Jack Straw will probably caretake as Leader of Labour and PM over Christmas with a General Election around Easter 2009 with the Gone Gordy Bounce and a modest recovery in the housing market for Spring making it the best hope for Labour.
28

Angus Ogg,

21/09/2008 13:41:24
#27

If the Scotsman & Herald merge the money at the back isn't daft. They will probably realise a change in the new title's position is inevitable, if it is to survive.

I reckon that a new "Scottish Herald" would make a big point of being fair and neutral. Neither pro, nor anti-Independence. That my friend, is the best we can hope for.

At least it would be an improvement on the antipathy there appears for Independence ir even the debate about it.
29

S'me,

Edinburgh 21/09/2008 14:40:43
SNP.. playing into the tories hands...they must really love you....
30

Red Etin,

21/09/2008 14:44:03
"The eyes of the country are upon us, and the people of this country want us to address their concerns."

Arrogant drivle! What country was Broon talking about? The eyes of Scotland are looking towards independence as Cameron prepares for power.

There are no "last chances" for Broon. Labour is toast at the next general election, and I hope an indication of what is to come is given by the currently unrepresented people of Fife.

Glenrothes, remember Iraq!
31

It's life but not as we know it,

The oort Clouds 21/09/2008 15:09:05
Pity if you aren't watching the Labour Conference right now. That woman who wouldn't manage to run a pick-and-mix counter at Woolworths is gasbagging on. I think they call her Home Secretary.
32

David55,

London 21/09/2008 15:35:54
#18 I agree with your comments.

It seems bizzare that a paper called The Scotsman, should display such blatant animosity towards the SNP. Maybe the journalists at The Scotsman should consider the fact that the SNP are quite popular at the moment, therefore attacking the SNP probably isn't helping sales of their paper.
33

Guga II,

Rockall 21/09/2008 16:51:37
#33 David55.

It's not so bizarre when you consider that the editors and most of the rest of the staff at the Hootsmon are all card carrying members of the New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party (North British Branch).
34

Seannair,

Oban 21/09/2008 17:27:45
They could call the merged newspaper "The Toom Tabard"
35

Vote UKIP,

21/09/2008 17:34:01
Gordon Brown and his SNP chums won't stand a chance against UKIP. They're all terrifed of the kippers!

Go UKIP, let's see a good result in Glenrothes!
36

MacGillicuddy,

21/09/2008 18:14:09
#36
Oh there will be a good result in Glenrothes alright but it won't involve Reichsfuehrer Niggle von Farage and his UKIP-BNP!
37

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 21/09/2008 18:59:12
Having engineered the failure of HBoS or at least helped it on its way brown now has the temerity to say he's "saved" the situation! I think he was chancellor once and presided over deregulation of the financial services are which has resulted in the toothless non-attempt to rein in daft practices and careless credit operations. "All on my watch" he could rightly claim. Then to introduce a ban on shorting just after he approved the LloydsTSB/HBoS deal was little short of breathtaking. Watch where he goes after he is ignominiously slung out of office - could it be not be a million miles away from boardrooms in either banking or energy, since he has effectively bent over every time?

"The eyes of the country are upon us, and the people of this country want us to address their concerns."

First part of sentence correct and then no, no, no - we don't want more of the same sleaze and taxation and chicanery which got us into the mess in the first place. When you realise you're putting your hand in the fire you don't reach in and grab the red hot coals!
38

weh,

21/09/2008 21:51:32
I reckon that a new "Scottish Herald" would make a big point of being fair and neutral"

Yes Angus-I, also, believe that sightings of porkers levitating, are just possible!

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!

 

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