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Burt and Mathewson seek cash to boost HBOS battle



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Published Date: 16 November 2008
THE two banking grandees attempting to scupper the takeover of HBOS by Lloyds TSB are talking to institutions about financial support for an alternative to the planned merger.
While details remain sketchy, Sir Peter Burt and Sir George Mathewson confirmed they are sounding out potential backers who may also include overseas financiers.

Sources informed Scotland on Sunday that the pair had made approaches, and yesterday Burt confirmed this. "We are talking to a number of institutions to see if they would be prepared to support George's and my arguments," he said.

Burt, former chief executive of Bank of Scotland, and Mathewson, former chairman of the Royal Bank of Scotland, want the proposed deal to be scrapped and for them to be installed in place of HBOS chairman Lord Stevenson and chief executive Andy Hornby.

Any financial backing behind their intervention would help strengthen their appeal to shareholders who insist the Lloyds TSB deal offers certainty and stability.

Burt was encouraged by a letter from Stevenson to HBOS shareholders on Friday that suggested a standalone HBOS may require only £500m of further funding to the £11.5bn provided by the Government.

"There are certainly plenty of institutions that could provide that sum," said Burt.

Mathewson played down the likelihood of the pair instigating a rival bid but said all options were being considered to recapitalise the bank.

"I think the key word is 'alternatives' to the existing merger. It might involve capital, external capital.

"I am not going into explanations. The first stage is for people to seriously consider that there are alternatives and to establish what the Government's position would be.

"It could include anything. I am not saying we could do this or that. Peter and I have been saying from the beginning that the HBOS board should be evaluating as many different options in the market, and I am not just talking about the stock market."

Mathewson admitted their attempts to overthrow the board and restore HBOS to independent status was a long shot. "I realise we are fighting an uphill battle. My goal is to ensure the market is looking at these issues."

He accused Stevenson of alarming shareholders. "Lord Stevenson used the word nationalisation as a deliberate piece of obfuscation which cannot be taken to mean confiscation. To a lot of people it would mean 100% Government owned."

Asked why he thought HBOS was determined to push through the merger, he said: "I don't know. It was the quickest and right solution at the time, but things have changed."

He challenged the view that the Lloyds deal was the only option because HBOS was bust. "You could say that all the banks apart from Barclays are bust.

"They need additional capital which is not available from the private markets and Lloyds is just as bust as HBOS.

In his letter to HBOS shareholders posted on Friday, Stevenson warned that the bank would have to be nationalised if they did not vote on December 12 in favour of the £5.7bn merger.

City analysts favouring the merger say that it offers stability and certainty for both banks, but critics warn of massive job losses and argue that the deal offers poor value for all shareholders. Lloyds TSB shareholders are expected to support the merger at an EGM in Glasgow on Wednesday.

Stevenson indicated that support for an independent HBOS could be higher than the £12bn and that such support could not be guaranteed.

Burt responded by claiming that Lloyds requires more support than HBOS. He also argued that HBOS was the most efficient bank in Britain.

"If it is in such bad shape why did the chairman of Lloyds TSB say this was the deal of the century?" he said. "If RBS (which is also being part-nationalised] can survive there is no reason why HBOS cannot survive as an independent entity.

"Lord Stevenson says he doesn't know what the terms will be," said Burt, who added that "we are all comparison shoppers these days" and said the Government should look at all options.

John Stewart, outgoing chief executive of National Australia Bank, warns in an interview with Scotland on Sunday today that the banks receiving bailout funds could be dependent on their governments for a considerable time.

He says: "One of the problems with the guarantees is it will be difficult to get off the drug.

"So many banks are now dependent on this support and it will be many years before they can stand on their own again."

The full article contains 762 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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1

Scotty dog,

16/11/2008 02:06:16
A series of kites continue to be flown but none appear to have that crucial ability to actually get off the ground.

Entertaining, yes to a point, but helpful, it doesn't seem so.

2

Jock MacSprog,

16/11/2008 02:10:04
ah cash, that might come in handy if you wish to bid for a bank ! These two are embarassing themselves and should just fade away quietly now.
3

Lewis Draughts Man,

Africa 16/11/2008 08:27:59
#1 & #2
The takeover/merger is a kite as well. It is actually a government sponsored theft of the assets of a huge company by a company that itself needs more funding than the company supposedly being saved. It could only happen in Liebor North Britain.

There is nothing embarassing about trying to get shareholders a better deal. The deal on offer from Brown-Lloyds is akin to a housebreaker leaving your bed and chair when he ransacks your property.

My wife and I have already sent in our forms to support the EGM to try and get rid of the burglers.
4

Evan Owen,

Uppergumtree 16/11/2008 10:11:15
Does that mean they don't have any cash of their own? Even if they did I doubt whether they would be gullible enough to use it in this instance!

Time for these people to be put in a white jacket and have the sleeves tied together, then put them in a box, chain it up, lock it and throw it in the river, any Scottish river will do.
5

JPP,

16/11/2008 10:23:00
Visit independenthbos.com to support the EGM
6

Central Station,

16/11/2008 10:26:54
HBOS shareholders have to date been reluctant to back any rights issue and Barclays were forced to go to the middle east to raise money at punitive terms. In other words investors are not too keen on banks at the moment.

Even if Sir Peter Burt and Sir George Mathewson were able to raise a modest sum, possibly from overseas, what happens 6 months down the road if things turn for the worse. No doubt back to H M Government! By then the patience and more importantly the ability of the British tax payer may be sorely stretched and the future of HBOS could be a Northern Rock type scenario with the profitable bits parceled off to viable institutions!

Given the complete dependence of HBOS on H M Government largess, better to accept the solution they have brokered and make the most of the situation?

This is now all political with the interests of the Edinburgh financial establishment being considered by some ahead of customers, shareholders and the wider economy. If the boot was on the other foot and HBOS was taking over Lloyds, with the new entity headquartered in Edinburgh, many of those now complaining would hardly be able to hide their glee!
7

M.T.,

16/11/2008 10:29:39
Something about this take-over smells. Could it be greed and/or the decay of morals?

As a rate-payer, I want, demand, the Government ensure that all questions are answered before this take-over progresses further.
8

Lewis Draughts Man,

Africa 16/11/2008 10:56:48
#6
Why do you think a takeover by Lloyds and the Government is a better deal for HBOS shareholders than just a part nationalisation as HBOS with new leadership.

Lloyds is in a weaker position than HBOS, but the HBOS shareholders have to lose more value because Brown made a deal with Lloyds to suit his political ends. The share price at this stage is affected by what has been done and does not show the real position.

The shareholders have to make the final decision, which will be financial and not political, on the future of HBOS. That is if it does not end up in court over the illegal activities that have set this whole scenario in place. As #7 asks "could it be greed and/or the decay of morals?"

9

Central Station,

16/11/2008 11:14:01
8#
If HBOS is in a weaker position than Lloyds, why is this not represented in the share price!

Lloyds TSB stock has in relative terms out performed HBOS throughout the whole banking crisis, does that not tell us something?

Please have a read of Terry Murdens article in the business section of this site. I am sure you will find it very informative.

10

Central Station,

16/11/2008 11:16:37
#9

Sorry - slight typo should read:

If Lloyds is in a weaker position than HBOS, why is this not represented in the share price!

Lloyds TSB stock has in relative terms out performed HBOS throughout the whole banking crisis, does that not tell us something?

Please have a read of Terry Murdens article in the business section of this site. I am sure you will find it very informative
11

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 16/11/2008 15:40:13
Here's a far better HBOS story than Terry's standard tripe. Courtesy the News of the Screws.

By Keith Gladdis, 16/11/2008
OUR snouts-in-the-trough bankers are at it again. And this time their depraved antics in a sordid drug- fuelled ORGY are even harder to stomach.

For today we reveal how a swaggering group of HBOS executives had sex with a naked female colleague at a hotel after one of them SNORTED COKE off her BELLY BUTTON.

The loadsamoney louts also WRECKED a wedding weekend— keeping guests awake by hammering on their doors through the early hours.

The rampage took place at an “awards” beano during their bank’s multi-billion pound crisis—just two days after a dramatic drop in its share price had forced the announcement of a takeover by Lloyds/TSB.

And at one point they all CHEERED when a manager yelled: “We still have OUR jobs, so let’s get P****D”

Blowing the whistle on the bank’s Star Gala Awards, one of the guests told us: “I have never seen anything like it before—the staff just went crazy.”

“Everyone was more than aware of the crisis in the company—but it didn’t seem to dampen their spirits.

“And what was going on in the bedrooms was unbelievable.”

Last night HBOS acknowledged that its staff were accused of causing mayhem at the posh Rowton Hall Hotel near Chester—but without a word of APOLOGY to its beleaguered customers or taxpayers who have forked out £11.5 billion to bail out the bank.

The awards bash for about 100 of the failing bank’s workers exploded after HBOS customers’ money had first been squandered on a £10,000 FIREWORK DISPLAY for them.

“They’d all been sinking champagne before getting stuck into the free wine with the meal,” said our whistleblower.

“Even the bosses were into the party spirit. After the meal one of them stood up and came out with the line about still having our jobs and getting p****d.

“The party was meant to end at 1am but it carried on way into the next day, some people didn’t even both
12

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 16/11/2008 15:44:46
Continued:

“In one room one of the HBOS girls had stripped off and was letting one of her colleagues snort cocaine from her belly button.

“Then she started having sex with him and two other guys one at a time. They knew there were people watching them but it didn’t seem to stop them doing what they were doing.

“We were in and out of each others rooms throughout the night and lots of us had been in that room for drinks.

“The door was open and any of us could have walked in to see them having sex. I saw what was happening and left them to it.”

Some partygoers were seen cutting cocaine with their staff passes before snorting it off hotel tables.

Downstairs another woman in a ballgown was also flat out—but this time after falling over a fountain and splitting her head open.

Last night North West Ambulance Service confirmed they had to send an ambulance to treat her.

Only last week the News of the World exposed HBOS staff enjoying a boozy £330,000 junket and laughing at cash strapped customers facing repossession.

But this time they were in violent mood.

As the boozy night on Friday, September 19, wore on a gatecrasher was beaten up on the dance floor by an HBOS manager. Our whistleblower said the banker had to be pulled off the man and then escorted off the premises.

Then drunken HBOS workers clashed with a wedding party also staying at the hotel. The selfish bankers HAMMERED on their hotel doors until 5.20AM on Saturday morning to keep them awake.

A hotel source said: “The bank staff didn’t care that this was supposed to be the happiest weekend of this bride’s life.

“Her guests were staying at the hotel and they didn't get any sleep. Their night was ruined as idiots dressed in dinner suits banged on their doors and hurled abuse at them.

“The bride was devastated at having part of her big day ruined.” Shortly after the incident, a member of the wedding party wrote a scathing post on the internet site Trip Advisor which offers re
13

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 16/11/2008 15:46:03
And more:

“We booked the hotel for two nights for a wedding function. Entered room, nice clean and well presented. Settled in fine,” wrote the guest. “All of a sudden out of nowhere the worst bass music imaginable was vibrating the floor with hundreds of young people with attitude swarming the place.

“This bass music lasted till 1 in the morning. We tried to ignore this then within 30 minutes of shut-eye ‘knock door run’ started.

“Not only to us, but to all the guests in the building.

“It just built up and built up until ‘kids in tux’ entered our room. This went on until 5.20am.”

Sources at the hotel claim it has lost at least TWO WEDDINGS because of the review on Trip Advisor.

One hotel source added: “We pride ourselves on providing the perfect wedding day and this kind of review can be very damaging for us.” It is also understood that empty wraps of cocaine were found along with used condoms after the bankers’ party.

HBOS executives have now launched an investigation into what happened at Rowton Hall and have quizzed individual staff.

No one is believed to have been disciplined yet.

The party took place just TWO DAYS after a run on HBOS shares had forced it to announce a £12bn link-up with Lloyds/TSB to avoid a Northern Rock style collapse.

Since then the bank has swallowed up £11.5bn from the taxpayer to avoid it plunging further into crisis.

Halifax/Bank of Scotland is Britain’s biggest mortgage lender. Thousands of families are facing having their homes repossessed because of the crisis.

An HBOS spokesman said last night: “We will undertake, as a matter of urgency, a full investigation into this alleged series of events.

“We will then take appropriate action if the findings of our investigation warrant it.

“Any such behaviour is totally unacceptable and is completely unrepresentative of our colleagues. We employ over 75,000 people, who work extremely hard for our customers.”

14

Aye Right...,

16/11/2008 18:24:52
#11 - 13
I am absolutely gutted.. I never get invited to bashes like that!!

 

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