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Celtic 1 - 0 Aberdeen: Samaras heads Celtic to the top



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Published Date: 20 April 2008
THE players had hardly had time to restart the game when the first chorus rang out. "We shall not be moved", sang the crowd.
They would love to think so but the harsh reality is that while they are back at the top of the table for the first time since January, whether they are still there at the end of the season depends on their title rivals. Rangers may have been displaced at the helm but they still have three games in hand.

Following an unprofitable couple of months in which they allowed the Ibrox club to extend their advantage, the defending champions have at least used the past three games to demonstrate they will not give up without a fight. Although, on this evidence, with chances still not being converted as they should, they will still have to up the ante if they plan to get to the end of the campaign without dropping more points of their own. Again there was a desperation near the end as a controversial refereeing decision denied Aberdeen an equaliser, when in truth that should have been well beyond their grasp by that stage.

With Celtic still clinging to a one-goal lead, the assistant referee penalised Zander Diamond for a handball seconds before the defender lashed the ball into Artur Boruc's goal. Initial replays did little to vindicate the official's decision. Not that Celtic cared. The final whistle sounded and there was a huge outpouring of relief, as the title race kept running.

Gordon Strachan was forced to make four changes from the team which defeated Rangers midweek and revitalised the league challenge. Lee Naylor, Paul Hartley and Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink all picked up injuries in the derby match and were replaced by Mark Wilson, Massimo Donati and Georgios Samaras respectively, while Gary Caldwell was suspended thanks to his part in the fracas which followed that victory.

His replacement was a more welcome figure as far as the home support were concerned. Bobo Balde is a cult hero with elements of the club's fan base, but he is not a favourite with the Celtic manager and only makes an appearance when there is little other choice. But having been cast aside since his two-match outing at the end of 2007, he returned to the side yesterday.

More pertinently, Aiden McGeady also turned out, having shrugged off the knock he sustained in Wednesday's match and his creativity was balanced by the trickery and initiative shown by Shunsuke Nakamura, who is edging back towards his optimum form. Both players again put in a shift, trucking up and down the flanks, cutting inside and generally taking responsibility for all that was good in this display.

But, without Hartley in there with Barry Robson, there was something lacking in central midfield, something they had rediscovered in recent weeks. Heart.

Massimo Donati is never likely to have the combative, pesky presence of Hartley and, outnumbered by Aberdeen in that area, it meant the home side were never able to dominate.

The visitors also had a point to prove. There are no grand prizes still at stake for the Pittodrie side but there was a need to bounce back from the humiliating cup exit at the hands of Queen of The South at Hampden last week. They too had made changes, Derek Soutar, Jackie McNamara, Sone Aluko and Chris Maguire making way for Jamie Langfield, Derek Young, Stuart Duff and Jeffrey De Visscher and they could have opened the scoring in just five minutes when Scott Severin blasted a long-range effort at Boruc's goal. The effort bounded off the Pole and scuttled along the line, finding the opposite post rather than the net.

Celtic dominated possession but couldn't carve out the opener. Langfield closed down Scott McDonald in the 14th minute, McGeady's sot was then deflected wide, and Robson's header missed the target. Then, in the 19th minute, a McGeady ball drilled across the face of the Aberdeen goal was almost touched in as Balde stretched out a leg and almost got a toe to it.

For all that the Celtic fans have lambasted Vennegoor of Hesselink, he was looking like an increasingly better bet than Samaras the longer the match progressed. Poor decision making, profligacy in possession and wasteful shooting were all bettered in the second half by one of the worst-timed jumps seen at this level. But just then he redeemed himself. From a 56th minute Robson free-kick, the striker rose above everybody else and headed his shot beyond Langfield.

McGeady should have doubled the tally six minutes later when Samaras turned provider, but McGeady's header from about ten yards was too high.

If the Celtic showing and support had been devoid of the nervousness in the first half, it permeated the air as the minutes ebbed away and chances were passed up.

In the 77th minute, Barry Nicholson sent a pass across the face of goal after McGeady had been robbed on the edge of the box and Miller only just failed to get in ahead of the Celtic rearguard at the back post. Then, when Diamond headed the ball on to Nicholson for the midfielder to chest down into his path for him to lash home, the officials had seen something even the television cameras hadn't.

Diamond can't get handle on referee's handball decision

ZANDER DIAMOND slammed referee Iain Brines after his last-gasp goal was chalked off by the official. The "goal" would have given Aberdeen a share of the points and plunged Celtic into despair but the defender was controversially penalised for a handball.

"From what I'm hearing, the goal should have stood, so I'm disappointed in that," said the Aberdeen defender. "I don't know what Brines is looking at, I don't know if he turned away at that moment in time. How he's said I've gone up with my hand is just an absolute joke. That sums him up.

"I turned round to Barry (Nicholson] after it had gone in, and I thought (the free-kick] had been given against him because it was close to Barry's hand. The decision is unbelievable. If he's one of Scotland's top officials, I think were in trouble."

Diamond even ventured to suggest that it could have been a case of retribution for an exchange of views when the player was told to leave the field to receive treatment for a bloody lip. "He's saying to me to get off the park, but if as a referee you can see blood coming, surely you've got to stop it yourself, not get me to go to the side while the game's going on. I'm sure that's the rules of the game, so I wonder what ones he's reading."

He said he tried to speak to the referee after the match to seek an explanation but that simply proved another cause for complaint. "Its just the usual, 'get away from me'. You can't really talk to him about the decision. He just says 'go away', when you're just politely going there to ask to clear the decision up. No doubt I'll be up in front of the SFA shortly.

"It's big decisions in big games. If were challenging to get into third place again, we might look back and say that point at Celtic Park could have done us. He goes away to his job from Monday to Friday but we need to pick up the pieces."

However, a self-confessed Celtic fan, he conceded that he may not have been welcome in his home town had the strike stood. "A lot of people will say they're glad it never went in and I'd never have got back in to Dumbarton if it had," he said.

Celtic manager Gordon Strachan said he was relieved that the goal had not counted but said there were decisions throughout the game which could have gone either way. "In the end, football in this town is just about winning," he said.

The full article contains 1346 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 19 April 2008 11:30 PM
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1

sonofcosmos,

glasgow 20/04/2008 00:04:23
it did appear to be a good goal for aberdeen..but i guess as it is not as newsworthy celtic appeared to have an equally good goal chalked off...did i miss it in the match report ??
2

forbesy1873,

20/04/2008 00:09:49
#1 blah blah blah!
3

I-Mac,

20/04/2008 00:11:51
A good goal against Celtic is chalked off in the last minute at a crucial stage in the season. Seems you just can't get the Masons any more!
4

walshy,

20/04/2008 00:14:37


Seen the 2nd goal on the net , clear as day Killen back headed the ball and it was the Aberdeen player came across and jumped into him..

The hand ball was not given against Diamond ..

The player that past it to him handled the ball, knocked it down with his arm and squared it to Diamond.

But your right , all the laptop loyal on the radio were going GA-GA. But didn't bother mentioning the good goal we got chopped off when Killen back headed to Samara and he lobbed the keeper for outside the box.

But that's that lot for you , only see what they want to see..
5

forbesy1873,

20/04/2008 00:17:12
#4

blah blah blah
6

walshy,

20/04/2008 00:17:22
"From what I'm hearing, the goal should have stood, so I'm disappointed in that," said the Aberdeen defender. "I don't know what Brines is looking at, I don't know if he turned away at that moment in time. How he's said I've gone up with my hand is just an absolute joke. That sums him up.

Tango and Sash ! there team knocked off the top of the league.

Again ! it was the linesman who flagged the handball not the REF !

7

I-Mac,

20/04/2008 00:18:25
Jeez, Celtic get very lucky with a refereeing decision and it's still a big conspiracy against them! :o)
8

forbesy1873,

20/04/2008 00:19:25
Anyway Blah blah blah!
9

Celtic Forever,

No-one likes them, they don't care 20/04/2008 00:21:23
I still can't stop laughing at the ugly, wretched faces of the rankgers fans at the point when JVofH scored last week...the despair and hatred on their faces will live long in the memory. Hilarious!
10

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20/04/2008 00:22:04
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11

I-Mac,

20/04/2008 00:27:03
"Nothing to do with luck , the linesman seen the Aberdeen player knock the ball down with his arm" (#10)

Do they drug test officials? ;o)
12

Daillyman,

20/04/2008 00:28:57
6 and 7

Why so bitter? and you won!!!!!!!!
13

Daillyman,

20/04/2008 00:30:16
We want McCurry for the next OF match. lol
14

GraemeH,

Edinburgh 20/04/2008 00:54:15
#10 - Agreed - the whistle went clearly before Diamond hit it. Boruc did not even attempt to block the shot as he knew play had already been stopped.
15

Fayneant,

NZ 20/04/2008 01:02:09
A lot of tetchy and defensive Celtic fans around today....with little or no provocation.

You got a break today - enjoy it. Sometimes that happens. Maybe it's just the roll of the dice and not a grand conspiracy after all....;-)
16

Isprodanfityet ,

20/04/2008 01:05:20
No matter what happens..........The Gers will still win the leauge.Have no doubts about that!
17

CALEDONIACO,

The Emerald City 20/04/2008 01:12:10
#3 Leave the Mason's out of it, it really offends me.

#5 Are you still hurting from Wed night?

#11 Maybe it's you that need's testing?

#14 The ball hit an Aberdeen player's arm before he passed it for the shot on goal. No goal!

Our 2nd goal by Samaras was good, don't pass judgment on it untill you see them, I'm assuming you did'nt get to see them yet!

18

CALEDONIACO,

The Emerald City 20/04/2008 01:18:13
#15 How do you know that we got a break to-day did you watch the game, maybe you are the one's that might have gotten the break to=day, what do we do if it comes down to goal difference and Samaras perfectly good goal that was chalked off cost's us the Leauge?
19

CALEDONIACO,

The Emerald City 20/04/2008 01:26:12
#16 It pains me to say this but I think your right, the Motherwell result might have killed us of, but you never know it aint over yet.

To-day I watched Celtic,Man U then a bit of Florintina, your going to have your hand's full especialy with your squad not up to strength.

Come on Saint J!
20

CSF,

edinburgh 20/04/2008 01:28:53
Aberdeen in the top half, shows how good the current league set up is. HMFC will finish at least 6 points proud of them at season closure.

Aberdeen are having difficulties of their own type. Sad day to be a don.
21

CALEDONIACO,

The Emerald City 20/04/2008 01:31:27
God, I'm going to have the honey that was fortunate enough to marry a Tim after me for spelling it's 2 ll's.
22

Fayneant,

NZ 20/04/2008 02:02:42
18 - Why do I need to see the game? I've read plenty of reports from various media sources, read the comments from the players and management of both sides, and the most illuminating - read the tetchy and defensive comments on this thread from the Celtic-minded.

I'm not arguing that Celtic got a break (or not, as you seem to think). This kind of thing happens in sport. Sometimes you get a break. Accept it for what it is, and have the grace and decency to accept it when the decisions occassionally go against you. Celtic fans have such a huge chip on their shoulder about the great conspiracy against them - lighten up FFS! Just watch how few Rangers fans jump on this 'handball' issue - if it had been against Rangers, it would be a totally different story.
23

Fayneant,

NZ 20/04/2008 02:05:57
20 - CSF. As a Rangers fan who grew up in Aberdeen at the height of their glory in the early 80's, it saddens me to see the way they have gone into an inexorable decline into mediocrity.
I would love to see Scottish football go back the days when the Dons, Dundee Utd, even the Embra sides, would have a realistic chance of winning the League. Hard to see it happening any time soon....
24

Brother Walfrid,

20/04/2008 02:11:02
It is a bit bewildering that Celtic have a perfectly good goal disallowed and then apparently Aberdeen suffer the same fate a few minutes later.

What are we to make of this ? What the f. is going on ?

And then the lap top loyalists focus on the Aberdeen goal but can't bring themselves to even mention the Celtic goal.

What is going on ? Evidently something very bizarre. It simply does not make any sense.
Oops! I've questioned the integrity of a Scottish referee and Murray's poodles...guess that makes me paranoid.
25

Brother Walfrid,

20/04/2008 02:23:14
Disallowing a 'good' goal should be a rare occurence...but in Scotland , we get two in a few minutes, but you won't find that out from the media who will have you believe there was only one.

What the blazes is going on ? Did Brines feel that he'd gone too far disallowing Celtic's goal and needed to make amends ? Lord knows, but something was going on...this is all too bizarre.
26

Fayneant,

NZ 20/04/2008 02:23:22
24 - Brother W. - you are a perfect example of my point.
Cheers up guys, you're top of the league! Think you can hang on?

Answers on a postcard to Pastor Gordon Smith, Mount Florida Masonic Lodge, post box 666 (the one next to Rev Mike McCurry's....)
27

Colin P,

20/04/2008 02:29:56
26 Fayneant

I think it's a case of them being top of the league suddenly, and they've forgotten what it feels like.

They have a sense of foreboding though, as if they know in their hearts it won't last....
28

Brother Walfrid,

20/04/2008 02:32:02
Still , despite all the shenanigans, Celtic emerge with a vital three points, and Rangers fans continue to sound slightly asthmatic.

The wheezing will become much more accute should we hump them next week.
29

Fayneant,

NZ 20/04/2008 02:35:51
28 - Wheezing?!?! LMAO!

Keep closing your eyes and repeating the mantra..."there's no place like home, there's no place like home"

30

Brother Walfrid,

20/04/2008 02:45:42
29

In the end, if we accept that reality is subjective, there is no such 'thing' as reality.

There is commonality between rival perceptions of reality, but no universal truth.

Sad, isn't it ?
31

Fayneant,

NZ 20/04/2008 02:58:07
30 - Aha! I knew it!

I know who you are....!


You're Doctor Who, aren't you...?

;-)
32

Brother Walfrid,

20/04/2008 03:05:39
Still, it was nice to see that the Celtic fans were much more calm yesterday.
Having finally taken Walter to the cleaners and at the expense of his best player, it was very gratifying.
The Celts were much more at ease with themselves and very conscious of the fact that the bluenoses were tuning in, their sweaty demeanour very detectable in the Spring air.

Hitherto they have been somewhat modest as regards their title chances, but the Celts having clocked up two wins, one against themselves, has engendered an ill-fitting arrogance amongst the brown shirts.
Tis understandable I s'ppose for tis part of their mental preparations for next week when they will again be our guests in paradise. I have to tap myself very gently on the pinky to stop myself feeling sorry for them.
33

Stan,

Sydney 20/04/2008 03:13:16
Never mind disallowed goals - worst Dons team in two decades. Midfield cowards who pulled out of tackles. Can't believe Jimmy Nichol, never frightened of a ruck, is associated with this lot. Standard scary
34

Colin P,

20/04/2008 03:40:57
One resounding victory (Motherwell) and two squeaky bum wins and the smug arrogance is back amongst certain Celtc-minded individuals on here.

It will be a pleasure searching for you once it all goes pear-shaped.

Nowhere to be seen, just like recent times...LOL
35

Richardinho,

20/04/2008 04:30:31
Having seen Aberdeen's goal from a few angles (but not the referees of course) I think it probably was a goal.

Saying that I don't understand why Celtic's 'goal' was disallowed when Samaras stuck it in the back of the net a few minutes before the end.

Very likely the ref was 'evening it up' and whilst he's not supposed to do that, it's pretty understandable. Refs don't want to make the wrong decision that changes the result of one match, let alone an entire championship.
36

Doubly-negative,

20/04/2008 04:41:04
Well well. This is the first and only time I am agreeing with that nut Romanov. Of course the league is OF-fixed. Always has been, always will be.
37

Richardinho,

20/04/2008 04:45:37
#36
idiot. I suppose Celtic bribed Ian Brines to disallow Samaras' second 'goal'?
38

viking nz,

new zealand 20/04/2008 05:12:17
NOW ITS FOR ALL TO SEE , this rubbish we have watched today really shows we are not up to win the league , as usual guys in the reserve team surely deserve more game time only caddis ? no hibs boy what did killen get 6 mins , donati is not up for the lets take it to them , as the writer said hartley & ROBSON SHOULD BE OUR MIDDLE MEN , rather see brown on the flanks than mcgeady uaing his pace and ball winning to more affect , this was a terrible display from the dons Im not sure if we were much better , but to be honest did we look like a team that was on top of the S P L I dont think so , so wgs team selection is still in cloud nine .HOW much more can we endure at least we will come second , and now for the clean out .
39

Hoosger,

Indiana, US 20/04/2008 05:17:55
Brother Walfrid/idee fixe/bawbag/etc, why do you feel the need to keep using different sign-ons?

Anyway, things are getting very exciting in the league. Celtic really deserved their old firm win on Wednesday, but I still believe there is just too much character in this Rangers side to throw it away now.
40

Little Stewie Griffin,

20/04/2008 06:40:07
Fact of life in the little cesspit that is the SPL that referees will have allegiancies to either half of the Old Firm divide.

Problem for Celtic is that we are running out of friendly Celtic minded referees-Khenny Clark on Wednesday Ian O'Brines today.

We must be coming back round to Brother McCurry and Dougal again fairly soon-!

The title race is going to the last day the 7/2 available on the Hoops at the bookies is great value.

41

Celtic Bhoy,

Carlisle 20/04/2008 07:01:25
It is three points and that is all that matters. There have been many narrow victories by those challenging at the top this season.

PS Who is that forbesy1873 dick at the beginning of these postings, what an absolute plonker.
42

ninenro,

20/04/2008 07:28:44
Does anyone know the assistant referee`s name ?
43

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 20/04/2008 08:03:58
Iain Brines helping Celtic! Imagine that, shock, horror!
44

Celtic Bhoy,

Carlisle 20/04/2008 08:15:25
43# What is your interest in either Aberdeen or Celtic? Is it to do with football?
45

The Sheriff,

Smug As Hell In A Genuine Way 20/04/2008 09:02:46
Good to see the LL caring about a team who's supporters dislike them more than we do..ah diddums the dons had a good goal chalked off,but did they?

I have to laugh at bernie winters whining,as far as I'm concerned aberdeen got exactly what they deserved from yet another negative display zip.It takes two to tango they say yet Aberdeen only decided to tango after their 11 man defence was undone by a superb delivery from Barry Robson and well executed by samaras.

Robson has been a big difference in the last few games with his crossing ability which has resulted in a few goals.

Rangers are in meltdown,injuries and suspensions abound,now second in the spl(ok games in hand but not points in the bag)all being well Celtic will be 8 points clear before Rangers face hibs at easter road and by then they me squeek pass st johnstone after a replay but will be well and truely dumped out of the runners up cup.The future is bright, it's green and white.
46

FAN OF GERRY,

glasgow 20/04/2008 09:04:37
I must admit I'm getting slightly concerned about this championship. A perfectly good goal for Aberdeen chalked of, and when you look at the other examples this season of celtic getting a helping hand it makes me wonder what all of these masonic referees are doing to earn their corn.
Have a nice day....
47

The Sheriff,

20/04/2008 09:06:51
we feel your pain gerry,it must be gutting to see the champions back at the top again.
48

FAN OF GERRY,

glasgow 20/04/2008 09:11:41
#47 As a Rangers fan of course it hurts to be knocked of the top of the league. What a stupid remark. I suppose you were delighted to be second.
Have a nice day....
49

The Sheriff,

20/04/2008 09:20:36
Oh dear gerry,go and have a big cry sonny,in fact make sure you have a box of kleenex handy after todays game.

St Johnstone 12/1 the win and 11/2 the draw an excellent double bet if I say so myself.
50

FAN OF GERRY,

20/04/2008 09:22:09
#35 Nice of you to be so understanding and fair. Oh yes celtic won.......
51

FAN OF GERRY,

glasgow 20/04/2008 09:23:03
#49 I understand you will have a few quid on them then?
52

The Sheriff,

20/04/2008 09:29:28
I most certainly will,the winnings from wednesdays game... :O)
53

FAN OF GERRY,

glasgow 20/04/2008 09:33:36
Well I suppose to be evens over the two games is not bad, at least you will still have your original stake money and you can put it on Fiorintina. I assume you wont be supporting the Scottish team in Europe?
54

G...,

Scotland 20/04/2008 09:33:47
desperate stuff with the "we feel you pain"

scottish cup semi final today, UEFA semi final midweek, and a chance to win the league on sunday... oh the agony!

As for Zander's injury time rocket.. these things happen..swings and roundabouts eh..setanta propogating the conspiracy by making no mention of the hoops disallowed goal..and mischevious slow motion replays of nicholson chesting it down into zanders path...another corporation in murray's lap!
55

The Sheriff,

20/04/2008 09:38:00
*54 Desperate stuff eh?It would seem your the one showing desperation with all this semi-final talk,remind me do you get a trophy for appearing in a semi-final?

*53 with some carefull spreadbetting I suspect my winnings to be better than break even after the Italian game gerry.
56

harshreality,

20/04/2008 09:40:13
Just as well I saw the game yesterday as Id hate to be relying on Moira Gordon to tell me what happened. Was she in the toilet in the 87th minute? Pity that - I was hoping to find out why Samaras's second was chalked off.
57

FAN OF GERRY,

glasgow 20/04/2008 09:42:52
#55 Well you will understand if I dont wish you luck for thursday evening and hope your betting fails. Anyway I've got to go now as I'm heading of to the semi final. See you next sunday for the showdown.
Have a nice day.......
58

The Sheriff,

20/04/2008 09:49:34
Can't wait gerry,send my regards to McGregor,Weir and McCulloch.
59

Blou,

20/04/2008 10:03:34
Aye, the mason's in the black aint what they used to be.

It's clear to see celtc are bottling it. Brown trouser time down at breezeblock boulevard.
60

Loki,

20/04/2008 10:05:58
55#: If only all the coinchuckers at Celtc Park put their money on at the bookies it would leave them less to throw at the opposition players & fans.
61

Bhoy Against Bigotry,

20/04/2008 10:21:05
It does feel guid tae be top of the league, again!! Wonder if any Rangers fans remember the last time they finished a season top!

Question: When was the last time one of the auld firm never came 1st or 2nd??? and who was it?
62

The Truth Hurts,

20/04/2008 10:25:08
60

Asked the question yesterday but didn't get an answer.. Are rangers getting punished for the sectarian singing heard from the majority of their support on Wednesday night?
63

Bhoy Against Bigotry,

20/04/2008 10:28:05
#60 completely agree!!! Then Robson wouldn't be scared to take corners in front of Gers fans!
64

The Sheriff,

20/04/2008 10:29:03
*60 I see Rangers fans are still fixated with throwing potatos,so before you start mouthing off get yer own house in order first billy boy.Oh and while i'm on,I agree partly with the RST for banning supporters from the next old firm game,the Rangers supporters....strange why scottish media hacks and the RST fail to condem over 400 seats and the toilets that were trashed and not to mention the dozens of Rangers fans arrested for various disorder offences but why tell the truth after all Rangers FC are scotlands shame.
65

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20/04/2008 10:35:39
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The Truth Hurts,

20/04/2008 10:38:56
65

Showing yourself and your fellow supporters up for the disgusting bigots that you are..... rfc= Scotland's shame.
67

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The Sheriff,

20/04/2008 10:42:59
*65 Deary me,when will you guys get over it....?Big Jock did know, he knew how to win the big cup you losers have been trying to win for the past 41 years...it really hurts eh?
69

The Sheriff,

20/04/2008 10:44:35
*67 Do you like Zed Zeppelin?
70

Wee Fred,

Heaven 20/04/2008 10:47:33
Anyone spot the irony in someone called "The Truth Hurts" commenting on item #65 at item #66?
71

Backofthenet,

20/04/2008 10:49:30
"As for Zander's injury time rocket.. these things happen..swings and roundabouts eh..setanta propogating the conspiracy by making no mention of the hoops disallowed goal..and mischevious slow motion replays of nicholson chesting it down into zanders path...another corporation in murray's lap!" (54)

The great anti-Celtic conspiracy stretches to the Republic of Ireland now, does it? Shocking!
72

The Sheriff,

20/04/2008 10:51:52
* 70, do you see the irony of your club having Richard gough played for them given you think you know what big jock was supposed to know or did the ibrox beaks turn a blind eye on your own.....
73

Wee Fred,

20/04/2008 10:56:03
Richard Gough is a story made up by Tims in the back room of Bairds to counter EVIDENCE and FACTS.

The same as the alleged 'potato throwing' was made up last week to counter coin and phone throwing EVIDENCE and FACTS.

Celtic FC - shame from the womb to the coffin.
74

The Truth Hurts,

20/04/2008 10:58:42
Anyone else spot that wee fred is a kn0bhead??
75

Wee Fred,

20/04/2008 11:00:13
Oh look - The truth really is hurting.


Bend over my son
76

Tim_MallÔy,

20/04/2008 11:00:49
and so another day and once again it's sad to see all the petty tit for tat stuff that soon descends into all the same old drivel about Ireland, The great Jock Stein, Masons, etc etc

Any chance we could talk about football?

There are about 11 good posters on here;

Maxpax
Bemused
Colin P
Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dailyman
Bosco Bhoy
SonofCosmos
Paul Mac
Richardihno
Brian Stewart
Ajax McKindling

The rest of you are just pea brains with nothing to say except bigoted and often childish soundbites.

If I am wrong please prove me wrong. Start posting decent sensible relevant stuff. The forum is about points of view not drunken squabbles.

Go on prove me wrong.
77

The Sheriff,

20/04/2008 11:01:23
*74 Dry yer eyes sonny....Boo hoo timmy conspiracy planting (did you see what i've done there?)a false story about angelic orcs who never threw potatos.

Fact is sonny,your team is scotlands shame and the history is there for all to see.Good to see you orcs coming on here and twisting an article because you diddys are no longer top.

The wheels on wallys bandwagon are falling off and the finishing line will not be made.
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The Sheriff,

20/04/2008 11:03:00
*77 You're having a laugh with that list.
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Tim_MallÔy,

20/04/2008 11:03:06
sorry 12 good posters....I forgot the mighty James who never let's us down with his wit, intellect and football analysis.

Thanks James and apologies for leaving you off the top poster list.
80

Wee Fred,

20/04/2008 11:03:16
Shame FC - from the womb to the grave since 1888
81

The Sheriff,

20/04/2008 11:07:58
Here is an example of the shame of scotland and its supporters.....

http://www.footballderbies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10146&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
82

The Truth Hurts,

20/04/2008 11:08:10
Wee'd Yourself fred

I don't rejoice in stories concerning kids, you sick piece of filth.. The fact that you deny a similar story on your own side while delighting in another shows what kind of scum you are... rfc= Scotland's shame..
83

The Sheriff,

20/04/2008 11:08:59
*81 Fred the bigot...feel free to join you kind on the above link you'll fit in nicely.
84

Tim_MallÔy,

20/04/2008 11:09:06
Fred Celtic were around and enjoying success and glory before you were born....and guess what Fred when you die, Celtic will still be going strong and enjoying success and glory.

So you're remark "shame fc - from womb to grave since 1888" is total nonsense.

Tell me fred which womb were Celtic FC ever in? Secondly can you take me to the gravestone of a football club. I never realised they buried stadia and football strips etc.

Grow up mate.
85

The Sheriff,

20/04/2008 11:14:00
Congratulations to wee fred for receiving the first red card on a celtic article,strangely he's not a celtic fan.
86

Bhoy Against Bigotry,

20/04/2008 11:17:21
#82 Cheers now I ken where the Rangers post after they get this forum closed!
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Tim_MallÔy,

20/04/2008 11:17:44
I have heard a few murmurs from Rangers fans concerning the St Johnstone game today. Though they think they will win, they are expecting a real tough game. I don't know I have never seen St.J, are they any good? Or are Rangers fans overrating them a bit?

If I was a betting man my money would be on Rangers to win 3-0.
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Wee Fred,

20/04/2008 11:17:54
"The fact that you deny a similar story on your own side while delighting in another shows what kind of scum you are."


Try EVIDENCE and FACTS


Not stories made up in the back room of Bairds.



#81 - can you show me anything bigoted I have posted?



Your team are an embaressment to Scotland.



That is a FACT
89

Bhoy Against Bigotry,

20/04/2008 11:17:59
*Rangers (fans) post
90

Bhoy Against Bigotry,

20/04/2008 11:19:49
#88 Should be a guid game, Saint J aren't walkovers! Specially considering playing for a european spot!
91

Tim_MallÔy,

20/04/2008 11:20:06
89

Fred away and have a wee lie doon as you are now talking to yourself.


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Tim_MallÔy,

20/04/2008 11:20:07
89

Fred away and have a wee lie doon as you are now talking to yourself.


93

jerrymanders,

Chalking Up, not Chalking Off 20/04/2008 11:20:14
I have listened to Moira Gordon on the Radio and she appears to be a competent hack, if indeed there is such a thing. The fact that there is no mention of Celtic's chalked off goal suggests that the blame lies with the editor. She must have reported on this, surely? If she did put this FACT in her copy then why did the editor cut it out? It will be interesting to see how it is reported in the sister paper tomorrow!
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Tim_MallÔy,

20/04/2008 11:22:00
91. BAB

So who are in St.J's team that are to be watched. I know they have Celtic reserve player Rocco Quinn who is not bad but a bit lacking in pace. They also have Jody Morris ex chelsea - who was never anything great anyway. Who else have they got?

95

The Truth Hurts,

20/04/2008 11:26:17
89- Wee'd yourself

Even delighting in the story (or any similar story- like the one concerning your own club) shows you up... Why do you delight in it?
96

sonofcosmos,

glasgow 20/04/2008 11:27:09
since i got post #1 ill try for #100 my point was that aberdeen had what looked like a good goal chalked off...i think that point has been well reported...!! d'oh..celtic had a good goal chalked off..not a mention..as some of the cretins on here say FACT...x
97

The Sheriff,

20/04/2008 11:27:56
Right then back to the football.

The game itself was a typical affair with the opposition setting up as others have done with an 11 man defence.Ok that's there right to do so and Celtic players should know by now what to expect so perhaps wgs could come up with plan b for a change to counteract such negative tactics.

The way forward against such tactics is to simply play the opposition off the park with quick passing and movement,switching the ball quickly and exploit the space left as the opposition are dragged all over the place.

I have it on good authority that Aiden like all the players are playing under instruction from WGS which may sound obvious as he is the manager but by sticking to his rigid formation he is holding back the best of what celtic can achieve.

Aiden is a talent and the fact the opposition are always doubling up on him proves that.Strachan however persists with him on one side of the park instead of switching wings with who ever is on the other side.Yesterday would have been a good opportunity for the other japanese winger to at least get a good 30 minute run out but instead strachan stuck with the same old tactics that have seen the opposition nulify our play.We are too one paced for much of a game we the fans know it and the opposition know it,if we up the pace the games will be more pleasing on the eye and regular high scoring victories will return.
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Tim_MallÔy,

20/04/2008 11:35:49
Rangers fans at the moment seem to still be fairly confident of the treble if not the Quad, but I think they should start looking at the hard facts.

McGregor and McCulloch (two of their main players out injured)

Ferguson playing with an injury.

Cuellar and Weir suspended and tiring.

One point out of the last six.

Tough games v Fiorentina

Tough league schedule.

The title is certainly not over though Rangers are favourites. If they lose next sunday and it is highly possible then Celtic move 5 clear with Rangers having 3 games in hand, the following week if Celtic win on the saturday they go 8 clear with Rangers to go to Easter Rd - a place where it's never easy for the OF esp with Hibs going for Europe.

So imagine the Scenario - Rangers 8 behind with 3 games in hand.

Their remaining 5 games then become must wins. And they will have to go to:

Pittodrie
Fir Park
Love St

Plus they have Dundee Utd and Motherwell at Ibrox.

All this plus the two European semis have to be crammed into 6 weeks.

I said a few weeks ago, if Ranger fall it may be spectacular but in fairness it shouldn't be. Win, lose or draw they have had a remarkable season. To get this far with the limited ability in their squad just shows what can be achieved with basic organisation, motivation and just being hard to beat. It's not football I'd pay to see but you have to admire their effort if nothing else.
99

Bhoy Against Bigotry,

20/04/2008 11:36:44
#95 sadly Rocco isn't playing (injury), Morris is another doubt, but they do huv Alan Main(IMO better than Neil Alexander), Goran Stanic, Gary Irvine another ex-Celt, the big Kevin James who should be a handful at set-pieces! and Paul Sheerin. Should prove a steerner test than Partick!
100

The Truth Hurts,

20/04/2008 11:37:20
Question- Are Celtic playing better (tactically or otherwise) without Scott Brown?
101

Bhoy Against Bigotry,

20/04/2008 11:38:33
#97 sonof sorry!
102

Bhoy Against Bigotry,

20/04/2008 11:40:29
#101 Guid question but instead of that, what is Celtics best central midfield pairing? Robson Hartley anoyone?
103

Bhoy Against Bigotry,

20/04/2008 11:40:37
*anyone
104

Tim_MallÔy,

20/04/2008 11:41:29
101

I rate Scott Brown but I think at time he lacks "zonal discipline" in otherword he can run around like a headless chicken.

Barry Robson is a much more assured mature player who reads the game better but maybe doesn't have Browns energy and variety.

To answer the question - yes Celtic do seem a more structured compact unit minus Scott Brown.
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Tim_MallÔy,

20/04/2008 11:42:39
I'd have Hartley Robson as first choice
106

Ajax MacKindling,

20/04/2008 11:44:23
77 Tim_Mall